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  <description>&lt;p&gt;We have the long awaited and hugely experienced Dave McNeill, talking all things Operations, DevOps, Site Reliability Engineering, Platform Engineering, tales of incidents, working in a startup environment, opinions on golang and python, and so much more.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://newsletter.ctrl-alt-expletive.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Subscribe to our new Newsletter!&lt;/a&gt;. Stay informed about new episodes, and get beautiful news and recommendation links.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Michael has been feeling old&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;We're using Vault and wondering about building kubernetes operators&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

Who is Dave McNeill?

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How did you first get into computers?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How did you get your first job in tech? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Where are you working now, What does your day to day job look like? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

Quickfire Questions

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt; Vim, VSCode, or vibe coding in cursor?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;You can only code in one language for the rest of your life, what do you pick? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Personal texting – preferred platform? Why? Why not whatsapp? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Biggest user crime of making container images? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Oldest piece of untouched software you’ve seen running in production?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

Breaking Prod Leaderboard

&lt;p&gt;Surely someone in Ops has seen something go wrong... with account balances?&lt;/p&gt;

Big Topics

&lt;p&gt;Hot Takes, and what Dave thinks of them:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;"SRE is just re-branded Ops"&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;"DevOps is Dead, Long Live Platform Engineering"&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;"Programming Languages will become obsolete, English is the new programming language"&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;"Disaster recovery training is just something google wrote in a book and nobody does it"&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

News

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;* &lt;a href="https://www.wiz.io/blog/new-github-action-supply-chain-attack-reviewdog-action-setup" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;More supply chain attacks&lt;/a&gt; (wiz.io blog)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2025/03/18/google-acquire-wiz-32-billion/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Google Acquires Wiz for $32 Billion&lt;/a&gt; (helpnetsecurity.com)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.techspot.com/news/107175-amazon-removing-option-local-alexa-processing-forcing-all.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Amazon removing privacy options from Alexa&lt;/a&gt; (techspot.com)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/mar/18/byd-ev-fast-charging-system-petrol-fuel-speed" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;BYD have a car that charges in 5 minutes&lt;/a&gt; (The Guardian)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

Recommendations

&lt;h2&gt;DevOps, Platform Eng, SRE&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt; &lt;a href="https://sre.google/sre-book/table-of-contents/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The SRE Handbook&lt;/a&gt; (Free google book)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://go.dev/tour/list" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;A Tour of Go website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://pragprog.com/titles/mnee2/release-it-second-edition/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Release It!&lt;/a&gt; (pragmatic prorammer bookshelf)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/platform-engineering/9781098153632/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Platform Engineering, Camille Fournier&lt;/a&gt; (O'Reilly)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkePAhnkHeg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Wardley Mapping&lt;/a&gt; (YouTube)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Music&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt; Truthpaste :: Manchester Indie Pop :: &lt;a href="https://music.apple.com/gb/artist/truthpaste/1793805265" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Apple Music&lt;/a&gt; · &lt;a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/1jX7jSANud3GSSMfs41KPs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt; · &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRsdPzCthUM&amp;amp;t=1s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sharon Van Etten - Sharon Van Etten &amp;amp; The Attachment Theory :: American singer-songwriter Alternative Album :: &lt;a href="https://music.apple.com/gb/album/sharon-van-etten-the-attachment-theory/1770826874" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Apple Music&lt;/a&gt; · &lt;a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/5aGKc7OL3d1aJodCG2747F?si=o2VqwgKbTIernpKx6ES8GQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt; · &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kwnCx-2Y7F_8SM8dLrOiz8aLML14-9OgU" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Bug Club :: Welsh indie energetic garage and punk :: &lt;a href="https://music.apple.com/gb/artist/the-bug-club/1552259279" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Apple Music&lt;/a&gt; · &lt;a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/7eiTMbuHYUPjrAMjIhAVDB?si=jo2FyAeARCCVfB7stSfTJA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt; · &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChXs6Ghb4yDtMGHypiRPj7w" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;TV&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/81756069" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Adolesence&lt;/a&gt; (Netflix)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.channel4.com/programmes/school-swap-uk-to-usa" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;School Swap: UK to USA&lt;/a&gt; (Channel 4)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Podcast&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://steering-engineering-podcast.simplecast.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Steering Engineering&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you enjoyed the show, please leave us a recommendation, &lt;a href="https://newsletter.ctrl-alt-expletive.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;subscribe to our new newsletter&lt;/a&gt;, but most importantly, tell a friend! Special Guest: Dave McNeill.&lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>We have the long awaited and hugely experienced Dave McNeill, talking all things Operations, DevOps, Site Reliability Engineering, Platform Engineering, tales of incidents, working in a startup environment, opinions on golang and python, and so much more.</p>

<p><a href="https://newsletter.ctrl-alt-expletive.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Subscribe to our new Newsletter!</a>. Stay informed about new episodes, and get beautiful news and recommendation links.</p>

<ul>
<li>Michael has been feeling old</li>
<li>We're using Vault and wondering about building kubernetes operators</li>
</ul>

Who is Dave McNeill?

<ul>
<li>How did you first get into computers?</li>
<li>How did you get your first job in tech? </li>
<li>Where are you working now, What does your day to day job look like? </li>
</ul>

Quickfire Questions

<ul>
<li> Vim, VSCode, or vibe coding in cursor?</li>
<li>You can only code in one language for the rest of your life, what do you pick? </li>
<li>Personal texting – preferred platform? Why? Why not whatsapp? </li>
<li>Biggest user crime of making container images? </li>
<li>Oldest piece of untouched software you’ve seen running in production?</li>
</ul>

Breaking Prod Leaderboard

<p>Surely someone in Ops has seen something go wrong... with account balances?</p>

Big Topics

<p>Hot Takes, and what Dave thinks of them:</p>

<ul>
<li>"SRE is just re-branded Ops"</li>
<li>"DevOps is Dead, Long Live Platform Engineering"</li>
<li>"Programming Languages will become obsolete, English is the new programming language"</li>
<li>"Disaster recovery training is just something google wrote in a book and nobody does it"</li>
</ul>

News

<ul>
<li>* <a href="https://www.wiz.io/blog/new-github-action-supply-chain-attack-reviewdog-action-setup" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">More supply chain attacks</a> (wiz.io blog)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2025/03/18/google-acquire-wiz-32-billion/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Google Acquires Wiz for $32 Billion</a> (helpnetsecurity.com)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.techspot.com/news/107175-amazon-removing-option-local-alexa-processing-forcing-all.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon removing privacy options from Alexa</a> (techspot.com)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/mar/18/byd-ev-fast-charging-system-petrol-fuel-speed" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">BYD have a car that charges in 5 minutes</a> (The Guardian)</li>
</ul>

Recommendations

<h2>DevOps, Platform Eng, SRE</h2>

<ul>
<li> <a href="https://sre.google/sre-book/table-of-contents/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The SRE Handbook</a> (Free google book)</li>
<li><a href="https://go.dev/tour/list" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Tour of Go website</a></li>
<li><a href="https://pragprog.com/titles/mnee2/release-it-second-edition/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Release It!</a> (pragmatic prorammer bookshelf)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/platform-engineering/9781098153632/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Platform Engineering, Camille Fournier</a> (O'Reilly)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkePAhnkHeg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Wardley Mapping</a> (YouTube)</li>
</ul>

<h2>Music</h2>

<ul>
<li> Truthpaste :: Manchester Indie Pop :: <a href="https://music.apple.com/gb/artist/truthpaste/1793805265" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Apple Music</a> · <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/1jX7jSANud3GSSMfs41KPs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Spotify</a> · <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRsdPzCthUM&amp;t=1s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">YouTube</a></li>
<li>Sharon Van Etten - Sharon Van Etten &amp; The Attachment Theory :: American singer-songwriter Alternative Album :: <a href="https://music.apple.com/gb/album/sharon-van-etten-the-attachment-theory/1770826874" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Apple Music</a> · <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/5aGKc7OL3d1aJodCG2747F?si=o2VqwgKbTIernpKx6ES8GQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Spotify</a> · <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kwnCx-2Y7F_8SM8dLrOiz8aLML14-9OgU" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">YouTube</a></li>
<li>The Bug Club :: Welsh indie energetic garage and punk :: <a href="https://music.apple.com/gb/artist/the-bug-club/1552259279" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Apple Music</a> · <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/7eiTMbuHYUPjrAMjIhAVDB?si=jo2FyAeARCCVfB7stSfTJA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Spotify</a> · <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChXs6Ghb4yDtMGHypiRPj7w" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">YouTube</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>TV</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/81756069" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Adolesence</a> (Netflix)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.channel4.com/programmes/school-swap-uk-to-usa" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">School Swap: UK to USA</a> (Channel 4)</li>
</ul>

<h2>Podcast</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://steering-engineering-podcast.simplecast.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Steering Engineering</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<p>If you enjoyed the show, please leave us a recommendation, <a href="https://newsletter.ctrl-alt-expletive.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">subscribe to our new newsletter</a>, but most importantly, tell a friend!</p><p>Special Guest: Dave McNeill.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>We have the long awaited and hugely experienced Dave McNeill, talking all things Operations, DevOps, Site Reliability Engineering, Platform Engineering, tales of incidents, working in a startup environment, opinions on golang and python, and so much more.</p>

<p><a href="https://newsletter.ctrl-alt-expletive.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Subscribe to our new Newsletter!</a>. Stay informed about new episodes, and get beautiful news and recommendation links.</p>

<ul>
<li>Michael has been feeling old</li>
<li>We're using Vault and wondering about building kubernetes operators</li>
</ul>

Who is Dave McNeill?

<ul>
<li>How did you first get into computers?</li>
<li>How did you get your first job in tech? </li>
<li>Where are you working now, What does your day to day job look like? </li>
</ul>

Quickfire Questions

<ul>
<li> Vim, VSCode, or vibe coding in cursor?</li>
<li>You can only code in one language for the rest of your life, what do you pick? </li>
<li>Personal texting – preferred platform? Why? Why not whatsapp? </li>
<li>Biggest user crime of making container images? </li>
<li>Oldest piece of untouched software you’ve seen running in production?</li>
</ul>

Breaking Prod Leaderboard

<p>Surely someone in Ops has seen something go wrong... with account balances?</p>

Big Topics

<p>Hot Takes, and what Dave thinks of them:</p>

<ul>
<li>"SRE is just re-branded Ops"</li>
<li>"DevOps is Dead, Long Live Platform Engineering"</li>
<li>"Programming Languages will become obsolete, English is the new programming language"</li>
<li>"Disaster recovery training is just something google wrote in a book and nobody does it"</li>
</ul>

News

<ul>
<li>* <a href="https://www.wiz.io/blog/new-github-action-supply-chain-attack-reviewdog-action-setup" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">More supply chain attacks</a> (wiz.io blog)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2025/03/18/google-acquire-wiz-32-billion/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Google Acquires Wiz for $32 Billion</a> (helpnetsecurity.com)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.techspot.com/news/107175-amazon-removing-option-local-alexa-processing-forcing-all.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon removing privacy options from Alexa</a> (techspot.com)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/mar/18/byd-ev-fast-charging-system-petrol-fuel-speed" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">BYD have a car that charges in 5 minutes</a> (The Guardian)</li>
</ul>

Recommendations

<h2>DevOps, Platform Eng, SRE</h2>

<ul>
<li> <a href="https://sre.google/sre-book/table-of-contents/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The SRE Handbook</a> (Free google book)</li>
<li><a href="https://go.dev/tour/list" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Tour of Go website</a></li>
<li><a href="https://pragprog.com/titles/mnee2/release-it-second-edition/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Release It!</a> (pragmatic prorammer bookshelf)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/platform-engineering/9781098153632/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Platform Engineering, Camille Fournier</a> (O'Reilly)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkePAhnkHeg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Wardley Mapping</a> (YouTube)</li>
</ul>

<h2>Music</h2>

<ul>
<li> Truthpaste :: Manchester Indie Pop :: <a href="https://music.apple.com/gb/artist/truthpaste/1793805265" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Apple Music</a> · <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/1jX7jSANud3GSSMfs41KPs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Spotify</a> · <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRsdPzCthUM&amp;t=1s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">YouTube</a></li>
<li>Sharon Van Etten - Sharon Van Etten &amp; The Attachment Theory :: American singer-songwriter Alternative Album :: <a href="https://music.apple.com/gb/album/sharon-van-etten-the-attachment-theory/1770826874" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Apple Music</a> · <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/5aGKc7OL3d1aJodCG2747F?si=o2VqwgKbTIernpKx6ES8GQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Spotify</a> · <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kwnCx-2Y7F_8SM8dLrOiz8aLML14-9OgU" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">YouTube</a></li>
<li>The Bug Club :: Welsh indie energetic garage and punk :: <a href="https://music.apple.com/gb/artist/the-bug-club/1552259279" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Apple Music</a> · <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/7eiTMbuHYUPjrAMjIhAVDB?si=jo2FyAeARCCVfB7stSfTJA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Spotify</a> · <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChXs6Ghb4yDtMGHypiRPj7w" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">YouTube</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>TV</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/81756069" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Adolesence</a> (Netflix)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.channel4.com/programmes/school-swap-uk-to-usa" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">School Swap: UK to USA</a> (Channel 4)</li>
</ul>

<h2>Podcast</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://steering-engineering-podcast.simplecast.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Steering Engineering</a></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<p>If you enjoyed the show, please leave us a recommendation, <a href="https://newsletter.ctrl-alt-expletive.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">subscribe to our new newsletter</a>, but most importantly, tell a friend!</p><p>Special Guest: Dave McNeill.</p>]]>
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