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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Alison McIntyre, Director of Cloud Economics at Capgemini gives us a tour of modern FinOps, and the state of FinOps report&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Michael is investigating &lt;a href="https://www.liberatingstructures.com/31-ecocycle-planning/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Liberating Structures&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mark doesn't know what a Clementine is&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alison gets in on the ground floor on a new FinOps project&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://newsletter.ctrl-alt-expletive.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Subscribe to our new Newsletter!&lt;/a&gt; Stay informed about new episodes, and get beautiful news and recommendation links.&lt;/p&gt;

Who is Alison McIntyre?

&lt;p&gt;IT support -&amp;gt; Scottish Parliament -&amp;gt; Lloyds Bank -&amp;gt; Capgemini, with some stories along the way!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Quickfire Questions:&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;What is one FinOps practice you take into your personal life?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;What is the most likely offender of unnecessary spend in your experience?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Which roles are most receptive to the introduction of FinOps concepts?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;What is one memory that sticks out from interviewing Michael?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;What is the biggest misconception about FinOps?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;What is the most memorable reaction you’ve seen when you’ve shown someone the cloud spend their team is accountable for?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;What is FOCUS?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;What is Cloud Plus, and Scopes?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Breaking Prod&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Alison will happily unplug your network cables for you&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Big Topic: FinOps&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The term ‘unit economics’ comes up in all the literature, what does it mean&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;What is the structure of that team? What sort of roles exist in a team like this when a company decides to have one?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;If you have an internal developer platform, does chargeback need to include the cost of the team developing that platform?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;What if other teams internally aren’t willing to eat that cost? Can they reject the Internal Developer Platform and do it themselves?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Is there a lot of tooling provided by the hyperscalers?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Is it significantly harder to track consumption with on-premise infra?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

News

&lt;p&gt;We cover the &lt;a href="https://data.finops.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;2025 State of FinOps report&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
We get hot takes from our expert.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; "Workload optimization and waste reduction is the top priority by a clear margin"&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; "In the next 12 months, governance and optimization are top for future priorities"&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; "“Organizational Alignment” still the top way to achieve priorities but “Investment and Tooling” has risen significantly"&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; "Practitioners are increasing effort in many capabilities while reducing effort in very few"&lt;/p&gt;

Recommendations

&lt;h2&gt;FinOps&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.finops.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;FinOps Foundation&lt;/a&gt; website&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/cloud-finops/9781492054610/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Cloud FinOps&lt;/a&gt; book, by J. R. Storment and Mike Fuller (O'Reilly)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZp7eZoOt-1yIMDhIb7LwEmVkutatcXYH" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;FinOps Weekly&lt;/a&gt; podcast&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Books&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/Unlearn-Audiobook/0008359644" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Unlearn&lt;/a&gt; audiobook (audible)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/George-Orwells-1984-Audiobook/B0CRS2YMLQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;1984 Audiobook&lt;/a&gt;, featuring Andrew Garfield, Cynthia Erivo, Andrew Scott and Tom Hardy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;TV &amp;amp; Film&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/en-gb/browse/entity-31d1e6f6-b11a-4848-9153-0a832cdc22a4" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;A Real Pain&lt;/a&gt;, Drama film on Disney+&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://tv.apple.com/gb/show/the-studio/umc.cmc.7518algxc4lsoobtsx30dqb52" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Studio&lt;/a&gt;, Comedy series on Apple TV&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.sky.com/watch/series/ed2f46ed-0636-4585-ac14-88b553f3d0cb" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;White Lotus&lt;/a&gt;, Drama series on Sky&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.paramountplus.com/gb/shows/mobland/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;MobLand&lt;/a&gt;, Crime Drama on Paramount+&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Music&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt; Cultdreams - Love Won't Let Me Go &amp;amp; Death Consumes Me :: Indie Rock :: &lt;a href="https://music.apple.com/gb/album/love-wont-let-me-go-death-consumes-me/1777832399" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Apple Music&lt;/a&gt; · &lt;a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/1nKdqI6QZBXnBhfMnPtvVA?si=6NPuVWlvTjqjNXXyK4kC5w" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt; · &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nEcltOw5TTWl-RccpqxIjddiECuiUPVyg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Technology&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://arc.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Arc browser&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.crossplane.io/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Crossplane&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you've enjoyed the show, recommend it to a friend! Or leave us a rating/review on apple/spotify to help others find us.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://newsletter.ctrl-alt-expletive.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Subscribe to our new Newsletter!&lt;/a&gt; Stay informed about new episodes, and get beautiful news and recommendation links.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://forms.office.com/e/gQJFBRJJAY" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;GIVE US FEEDBACK! Do this form, it will take 4 mins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Special Guest: Alison McIntyre.&lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>Alison McIntyre, Director of Cloud Economics at Capgemini gives us a tour of modern FinOps, and the state of FinOps report</p>

<ul>
<li>Michael is investigating <a href="https://www.liberatingstructures.com/31-ecocycle-planning/" rel="nofollow">Liberating Structures</a></li>
<li>Mark doesn&#39;t know what a Clementine is</li>
<li>Alison gets in on the ground floor on a new FinOps project</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="https://newsletter.ctrl-alt-expletive.com/subscribe" rel="nofollow">Subscribe to our new Newsletter!</a> Stay informed about new episodes, and get beautiful news and recommendation links.</p>

<h1>Who is Alison McIntyre?</h1>

<p>IT support -&gt; Scottish Parliament -&gt; Lloyds Bank -&gt; Capgemini, with some stories along the way!</p>

<h2>Quickfire Questions:</h2>

<ul>
<li>What is one FinOps practice you take into your personal life?</li>
<li>What is the most likely offender of unnecessary spend in your experience?</li>
<li>Which roles are most receptive to the introduction of FinOps concepts?</li>
<li>What is one memory that sticks out from interviewing Michael?</li>
<li>What is the biggest misconception about FinOps?</li>
<li>What is the most memorable reaction you’ve seen when you’ve shown someone the cloud spend their team is accountable for?</li>
<li>What is FOCUS?</li>
<li>What is Cloud Plus, and Scopes?</li>
</ul>

<h2>Breaking Prod</h2>

<p>Alison will happily unplug your network cables for you</p>

<h2>Big Topic: FinOps</h2>

<ul>
<li>The term ‘unit economics’ comes up in all the literature, what does it mean</li>
<li>What is the structure of that team? What sort of roles exist in a team like this when a company decides to have one?</li>
<li>If you have an internal developer platform, does chargeback need to include the cost of the team developing that platform?</li>
<li>What if other teams internally aren’t willing to eat that cost? Can they reject the Internal Developer Platform and do it themselves?</li>
<li>Is there a lot of tooling provided by the hyperscalers?</li>
<li>Is it significantly harder to track consumption with on-premise infra?</li>
</ul>

<h1>News</h1>

<p>We cover the <a href="https://data.finops.org/" rel="nofollow">2025 State of FinOps report</a><br>
We get hot takes from our expert.</p>

<blockquote>
<p>&quot;Workload optimization and waste reduction is the top priority by a clear margin&quot;<br>
&quot;In the next 12 months, governance and optimization are top for future priorities&quot;<br>
&quot;“Organizational Alignment” still the top way to achieve priorities but “Investment and Tooling” has risen significantly&quot;<br>
&quot;Practitioners are increasing effort in many capabilities while reducing effort in very few&quot;</p>
</blockquote>

<h1>Recommendations</h1>

<h2>FinOps</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.finops.org/" rel="nofollow">FinOps Foundation</a> website</li>
<li><a href="https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/cloud-finops/9781492054610/" rel="nofollow">Cloud FinOps</a> book, by J. R. Storment and Mike Fuller (O&#39;Reilly)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZp7eZoOt-1yIMDhIb7LwEmVkutatcXYH" rel="nofollow">FinOps Weekly</a> podcast</li>
</ul>

<h2>Books</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/Unlearn-Audiobook/0008359644" rel="nofollow">Unlearn</a> audiobook (audible)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/George-Orwells-1984-Audiobook/B0CRS2YMLQ" rel="nofollow">1984 Audiobook</a>, featuring Andrew Garfield, Cynthia Erivo, Andrew Scott and Tom Hardy</li>
</ul>

<h2>TV &amp; Film</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/en-gb/browse/entity-31d1e6f6-b11a-4848-9153-0a832cdc22a4" rel="nofollow">A Real Pain</a>, Drama film on Disney+</li>
<li><a href="https://tv.apple.com/gb/show/the-studio/umc.cmc.7518algxc4lsoobtsx30dqb52" rel="nofollow">The Studio</a>, Comedy series on Apple TV</li>
<li><a href="https://www.sky.com/watch/series/ed2f46ed-0636-4585-ac14-88b553f3d0cb" rel="nofollow">White Lotus</a>, Drama series on Sky</li>
<li><a href="https://www.paramountplus.com/gb/shows/mobland/" rel="nofollow">MobLand</a>, Crime Drama on Paramount+</li>
</ul>

<h2>Music</h2>

<ul>
<li> Cultdreams - Love Won&#39;t Let Me Go &amp; Death Consumes Me :: Indie Rock :: <a href="https://music.apple.com/gb/album/love-wont-let-me-go-death-consumes-me/1777832399" rel="nofollow">Apple Music</a> · <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/1nKdqI6QZBXnBhfMnPtvVA?si=6NPuVWlvTjqjNXXyK4kC5w" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a> · <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nEcltOw5TTWl-RccpqxIjddiECuiUPVyg" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Technology</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://arc.net/" rel="nofollow">Arc browser</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.crossplane.io/" rel="nofollow">Crossplane</a></li>
</ul>

<p>If you&#39;ve enjoyed the show, recommend it to a friend! Or leave us a rating/review on apple/spotify to help others find us.<br>
<a href="https://newsletter.ctrl-alt-expletive.com/subscribe" rel="nofollow">Subscribe to our new Newsletter!</a> Stay informed about new episodes, and get beautiful news and recommendation links.</p>

<p><strong><a href="https://forms.office.com/e/gQJFBRJJAY" rel="nofollow">GIVE US FEEDBACK! Do this form, it will take 4 mins</a></strong></p><p>Special Guest: Alison McIntyre.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Alison McIntyre, Director of Cloud Economics at Capgemini gives us a tour of modern FinOps, and the state of FinOps report</p>

<ul>
<li>Michael is investigating <a href="https://www.liberatingstructures.com/31-ecocycle-planning/" rel="nofollow">Liberating Structures</a></li>
<li>Mark doesn&#39;t know what a Clementine is</li>
<li>Alison gets in on the ground floor on a new FinOps project</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="https://newsletter.ctrl-alt-expletive.com/subscribe" rel="nofollow">Subscribe to our new Newsletter!</a> Stay informed about new episodes, and get beautiful news and recommendation links.</p>

<h1>Who is Alison McIntyre?</h1>

<p>IT support -&gt; Scottish Parliament -&gt; Lloyds Bank -&gt; Capgemini, with some stories along the way!</p>

<h2>Quickfire Questions:</h2>

<ul>
<li>What is one FinOps practice you take into your personal life?</li>
<li>What is the most likely offender of unnecessary spend in your experience?</li>
<li>Which roles are most receptive to the introduction of FinOps concepts?</li>
<li>What is one memory that sticks out from interviewing Michael?</li>
<li>What is the biggest misconception about FinOps?</li>
<li>What is the most memorable reaction you’ve seen when you’ve shown someone the cloud spend their team is accountable for?</li>
<li>What is FOCUS?</li>
<li>What is Cloud Plus, and Scopes?</li>
</ul>

<h2>Breaking Prod</h2>

<p>Alison will happily unplug your network cables for you</p>

<h2>Big Topic: FinOps</h2>

<ul>
<li>The term ‘unit economics’ comes up in all the literature, what does it mean</li>
<li>What is the structure of that team? What sort of roles exist in a team like this when a company decides to have one?</li>
<li>If you have an internal developer platform, does chargeback need to include the cost of the team developing that platform?</li>
<li>What if other teams internally aren’t willing to eat that cost? Can they reject the Internal Developer Platform and do it themselves?</li>
<li>Is there a lot of tooling provided by the hyperscalers?</li>
<li>Is it significantly harder to track consumption with on-premise infra?</li>
</ul>

<h1>News</h1>

<p>We cover the <a href="https://data.finops.org/" rel="nofollow">2025 State of FinOps report</a><br>
We get hot takes from our expert.</p>

<blockquote>
<p>&quot;Workload optimization and waste reduction is the top priority by a clear margin&quot;<br>
&quot;In the next 12 months, governance and optimization are top for future priorities&quot;<br>
&quot;“Organizational Alignment” still the top way to achieve priorities but “Investment and Tooling” has risen significantly&quot;<br>
&quot;Practitioners are increasing effort in many capabilities while reducing effort in very few&quot;</p>
</blockquote>

<h1>Recommendations</h1>

<h2>FinOps</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.finops.org/" rel="nofollow">FinOps Foundation</a> website</li>
<li><a href="https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/cloud-finops/9781492054610/" rel="nofollow">Cloud FinOps</a> book, by J. R. Storment and Mike Fuller (O&#39;Reilly)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZp7eZoOt-1yIMDhIb7LwEmVkutatcXYH" rel="nofollow">FinOps Weekly</a> podcast</li>
</ul>

<h2>Books</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/Unlearn-Audiobook/0008359644" rel="nofollow">Unlearn</a> audiobook (audible)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/George-Orwells-1984-Audiobook/B0CRS2YMLQ" rel="nofollow">1984 Audiobook</a>, featuring Andrew Garfield, Cynthia Erivo, Andrew Scott and Tom Hardy</li>
</ul>

<h2>TV &amp; Film</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/en-gb/browse/entity-31d1e6f6-b11a-4848-9153-0a832cdc22a4" rel="nofollow">A Real Pain</a>, Drama film on Disney+</li>
<li><a href="https://tv.apple.com/gb/show/the-studio/umc.cmc.7518algxc4lsoobtsx30dqb52" rel="nofollow">The Studio</a>, Comedy series on Apple TV</li>
<li><a href="https://www.sky.com/watch/series/ed2f46ed-0636-4585-ac14-88b553f3d0cb" rel="nofollow">White Lotus</a>, Drama series on Sky</li>
<li><a href="https://www.paramountplus.com/gb/shows/mobland/" rel="nofollow">MobLand</a>, Crime Drama on Paramount+</li>
</ul>

<h2>Music</h2>

<ul>
<li> Cultdreams - Love Won&#39;t Let Me Go &amp; Death Consumes Me :: Indie Rock :: <a href="https://music.apple.com/gb/album/love-wont-let-me-go-death-consumes-me/1777832399" rel="nofollow">Apple Music</a> · <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/1nKdqI6QZBXnBhfMnPtvVA?si=6NPuVWlvTjqjNXXyK4kC5w" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a> · <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nEcltOw5TTWl-RccpqxIjddiECuiUPVyg" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Technology</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://arc.net/" rel="nofollow">Arc browser</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.crossplane.io/" rel="nofollow">Crossplane</a></li>
</ul>

<p>If you&#39;ve enjoyed the show, recommend it to a friend! Or leave us a rating/review on apple/spotify to help others find us.<br>
<a href="https://newsletter.ctrl-alt-expletive.com/subscribe" rel="nofollow">Subscribe to our new Newsletter!</a> Stay informed about new episodes, and get beautiful news and recommendation links.</p>

<p><strong><a href="https://forms.office.com/e/gQJFBRJJAY" rel="nofollow">GIVE US FEEDBACK! Do this form, it will take 4 mins</a></strong></p><p>Special Guest: Alison McIntyre.</p>]]>
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